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Body description, the art of illusion

I just have no idea how people describe their size and shape anymore. It is such a subjective thing but can also be used to hide the truth. So how do you describe yourself to appear as you want others to think you are and how do you hide the truth?

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1617335 - 23 Aug, 2023 - 12:56PM

It can often be the art of delusion.

Those of us over 40 need to be kind to ourselves and others when thinking about body shape. I am fit, attend the gym but am not perfect. I do not expect partners to be perfect. And the brain is the most sexual part of a being.

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Funguy77 - 24 Jul, 2023 - 09:47PM

Mmm it’s a tricky one right . I describe myself as average
So what dose that mean.. I’m a man with a 34 regular wast line small tummy but I have started the gym 3 weeks ago and dropped 9lb not a muscular upper body but great legs think I have a nice face but where I think it really counts is I can make you laugh I’m up beat happy and a total giver in the bedroom.

So that’s me in a nutshell ( Average ) x

1612345 - 24 Jul, 2023 - 03:15PM

Very Cuddly

Don't really get these. Does 'very cuddly', 'cuddly' or 'ample' mean (dare I even *think* the word), 'fat'? So why not give the option BBW and then we all know what's meant. A slim person can be 'very cuddly' in that she/he just likes to cuddle. A slim person could be Vogue-model-slim or skinny with sharp, bony elbows. And 'curvaceous'? Nice tits, nice bum? Hourglass figure? Who knows? The curves could be in all the wrong places...
But for over-40s and/or those women post childbearing years, 'average' is the only one that's going to be nearest to the truth - most of the time: most of us are average because most of us are slightly overweight or trying hard not to be. Age is a factor in this and it rarely works in our favour. White-collar workers are notoriously sedentary and this almost guarantees a pot belly of sorts, pilates, yoga or not.

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PlusSizePrincess - 22 Jul, 2023 - 10:15AM

I list my clothes size and my prominent attributes in my profile. I've tried to use a mix of photos with and without makeup, full body unflattering and nicely angled.

I could use only filtered pics / great angles and pretend to be something I'm not but what's the point?

MisQuiet - 06 Jul, 2023 - 10:32AM

I say "average"... I will let others decide if that's good or bad....
There would need to be SOMETHING in a photo that sparks an attraction in my view..... Unless the viewer is just blind or totally desparate.... 🤣🤣

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1608792 - 03 Jul, 2023 - 05:01PM

To be honest it is bollocks really. In the virtual world you can be who you want to be but in the physical world, you are defined by who you are. If you choose not to have parity then I guess you need to be a good liar.

1607684 - 03 Jul, 2023 - 11:23AM

I shared my photo the other day and got an incredibly good reaction so thought I’d better find a worse photo in case “in the flesh” was a let down 😆

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1586452 - 02 Jul, 2023 - 08:35PM

I think that re photos and age we've all be in a situation when someone turns up for the magic coffee and you're there thinking 'who the hell was it in the photo then as it sure wasn't you'.

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Runner6969 - 02 Jul, 2023 - 03:20PM

I take terrible selfies, so I guess i'd describe myself as "better in-person".

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Jay122 - 02 Jul, 2023 - 11:45AM

Paula99, you are spot on regarding looking better or worse in the flesh, I know people personally who are incredibly photogenic, but this can work both ways.

Beckysharp, I am just looking through my images to see if I can find a new image of me ‘making an effort’ 👍

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Beckysharp - 02 Jul, 2023 - 11:32AM

I think it’s a good idea to find a recent photo where you’re looking your best. If you’re dressed up that’s fine!

It’s a bit off putting if you put up a photo where you’ve obviously made no effort at all (but also seems quite common!)

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Paula99 - 02 Jul, 2023 - 10:52AM


Unfortunately people are so image conscious these days that they forget that life is short and is for living ..
The sad thing about photographs is they can be altered and certain individuals are not photogenic and are much better in the flesh…

Guys and girls are both guilty of this ..😔

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Jay122 - 02 Jul, 2023 - 10:11AM

Pictures are so difficult also, backing up a description - personally I have gone out of my way to put on a very ordinary picture without any effort made (not dressed up, special occasion or flattering in any way), however I feel this may have been a mistake. I should have dug out my 30 year old pictures of when I went travelling (tanned fit and a little’ younger!). Joking aside, it’s obvious to me that putting a 10 year old piccy on is just plain silly, unless you have found that magic cream we are all searching for?, maybe I should however find an image of when I had made an effort to dress up, or is that false also as it’s not me everyday? Oh it’s such a minefield 😂

Eliza Boo - 02 Jul, 2023 - 07:31AM


Shakira sang 'Hips Don't Lie'. Follow up song should be 'Neither Do Hands and Neck' !

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Enigma.. - 29 Jun, 2023 - 01:29PM

@Lorelai Gilmore

All I’m going to say, regarding (coughs) fictional ages…. 😏😉

Thank goodness for glass doors lol 😂😝

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masterbatesalot - 27 Jun, 2023 - 04:10PM

I say forget what I look like, just think I could do wonders with your kitchen, and you never have to see my again and your bank balance is still in the black.

Bobby224 - 24 Jun, 2023 - 05:36AM

Ha people say I am younger than I look but I think that’s the way I act more than my looks! But hey who knows maybe I do look younger!

Eliza Boo - 23 Jun, 2023 - 09:56PM

"People say I look younger than I am". And by 'people' you mean your mum?

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TheBoredHousewife - 23 Jun, 2023 - 08:47PM

I have yet to meet a guy who actually looks 10 years younger than his actual age.

Very happy to be proven wrong.

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Bobby224 - 23 Jun, 2023 - 08:23PM

Haha I gather you were duped with a beard! You don’t like nice great big bushy beard!?

Eliza Boo - 23 Jun, 2023 - 07:57PM

And where do we start with the beard deception?!!!! They can't have grown a full Prince Vulton since they started messaging!!! ...But there it is, the 'great big bushy beard!' (to quote hot fuzz...irony not lost on me.)

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Eliza Boo - 23 Jun, 2023 - 07:51PM

Body? How about age?! What is it with guys knocking the years off? This week I had a guy, alledgedly 50, who sent me a close up picture of himself from the 1990s, and a second far away shot of himself clearly 25 years later! Screen shot it...close up...hilarious!!!

Another guy who said he was early 50s...sent pw...Well, all I can say is that I'm not going to be the one to tell him he's been in a coma for 20 years and just woke up!!!

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Jay122 - 23 Jun, 2023 - 01:47PM

Agree with just being honest about size, and about what attracts you to someone, it does no one any favours to be overly artistic with the truth on that. I would say it’s still not easy to describe yourself but just hope someone with mutual connections and chemistry comes along soon. . . Patience is the order of the day (weeks/months/years!!?)

1604745 - 18 Jun, 2023 - 11:00AM

Size and shape is not subjective, its measurable and observable. People just lie because they are desperate or deluded.

Just like everyone I have a type and i can assure everyone male or female that if you are fat, thin, tall, short. Be patient and there will be someone that adores you regardless and others that are not attracted.

Stop mincing words and lying about yourselves.

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Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 08:49PM

Quirk-birdy ha you splint call swimming 3or 4 times a week 2000m a time exercise? That’s an all body work out and a tough one. I’m sure you have a wonderful fit body! Haha I also remember the days of chasing my children around! I enjoyed that more than just driving them around now!

TheBoredHousewife - 15 Jun, 2023 - 08:37PM

Waskally Wabbit - 15 Jun, 2023 - 04:41PM

Aren’t you the one who on another thread, recommended doing a passing hi in a public place as a first F2F encounter? After this afternoon’s blinder of a salvo, it wouldn’t be inconceivable that the hi’s may now pass you by 👋🏼👋🏼

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Dotty Green - 15 Jun, 2023 - 08:29PM

Cheesypuff - 15 Jun, 2023 - 08:12PM

Nice to see you back Puffy

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Quirky-Birdy - 15 Jun, 2023 - 08:26PM

Bobby224 most of its not exercise its just side effects of having kids and dogs 🤣
But I'm am relatively fit, just got the curves to go with it 🤣
I'm absolutely fine with that and very happy with my body, but it means the usual body descriptions used don't really fit me.

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Cheesypuff - 15 Jun, 2023 - 08:12PM

Waskally Wabbit - 15 Jun, 2023 - 04:41PM

Hate to break it to you Bugs, but just cos all your mates are rocking chodes, that doesn't make yours "average" 🍄

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Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 08:12PM

Anyway quirky-birdy I would actually describe you as fit with all that exercise!

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PonderingOne - 15 Jun, 2023 - 07:49PM

Size and shape are relative. I think it’s the fit that counts.

Oh and agree Enigma, wise words to live your life by and possibly not just those North of the border…..

Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 07:42PM

Haha to blow your own trumpet of how hard hitting your comments are and mention your nationality etc etc is boring and predictable and reads of insecurity!

Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 07:37PM

Haha who is boring? Predictable?
A Scottish lady trying to hard to be strong... wow what a turn on!

Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 07:33PM

Haha who is boring? Predictable?
A Scottish lady trying to hard to be strong... wow what a turn on!

ExoticOrchid - 15 Jun, 2023 - 07:25PM

WWabbit - 04:41PM

You obviously haven't been anywhere near the Blarney Stone, let alone kissed it! 🤔

(your profile pic tells us all we need to know ... 🤦🏻‍♀️)

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Enigma.. - 15 Jun, 2023 - 07:18PM


Someone once said “Never p*ss off a Scottish woman and expect to live”.

Lol 😂. Love that saying.

One of my favs… 😂😉😃❤️

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Enigma.. - 15 Jun, 2023 - 07:15PM

Oh dear.
Methinks this thread is on repeat 😂🙄🤷🏼‍♀️😏🥱.
(Examines nails)….
Yes…. Boring and repetitive 🥱.
Yes…. it’s moi…. The plain talking Scottish woman.
Been judged “wrongly” by others on threads here.
Now they are coming to realise that I am actually a decent, honest, genuine but, lol, plain speaking individual.
If you ask me 🤔 “Does my bum look big in this?”.
You’ll get told the truth lol.

Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 06:56PM

Size is irrelevant when a woman is confident and flirty and know how to use that on us weak men!

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Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 06:56PM

Size is irrelevant when a woman is confident and flirty and know how to use that on us weak men!

Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 06:56PM

Size is irrelevant when a woman is confident and flirty and know how to use that on us weak men!

Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 06:56PM

Size is irrelevant when a woman is confident and flirty and know how to use that on us weak men!

Linda Martin - 15 Jun, 2023 - 06:51PM

Wascally Wabbit …

It’s a good job we women don’t measure stamina by age ..you would be out of the race .🙄

Remember to come down from your arse to the real world ?

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Paula99 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 06:07PM

Waskally wabbit …

I expect most run a mile when they see your age …😂

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Dotty Green - 15 Jun, 2023 - 05:42PM

silky81 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 05:18PM

That’s very nice - but I never feel the need to say o I’m a size 10 … I wouldn’t as a guy’s trouser or shirt size so why would I share my dress size 🤷🏻‍♀️

Dotty Green - 15 Jun, 2023 - 05:39PM

Waskally Wabbit - 15 Jun, 2023 - 04:41PM

Good luck finding that 21 year old 😂😂😂 such a charmer ….

Beckysharp - 15 Jun, 2023 - 05:29PM

I personally think dress size is a terrible measure. My dress size varies by 4 whole sizes depending on where I shop 🤷‍♀️

I think the only way to know for sure is to meet in person (and obviously a photo assuming it’s up to date)

Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 05:27PM

Well quirky birdy I would describe you as fit! No way I could do all that exercise. Personally if a woman is feminine ( no swearing etc) then just the way a woman is a woman is more than enough for me. Size doesn’t come into it!

Bobby224 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 05:27PM

Well quirky birdy I would describe you as fit! No way I could do all that exercise. Personally if a woman is feminine ( no swearing etc) then just the way a woman is a woman is more than enough for me. Size doesn’t come into it!

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silky81 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 05:18PM

Some of us gents prefer curves and find them more fun anyway so there certainly isn't any reason to be shy about dress size. A dress size is also a fairly objective measure, so neither party should feel disappointed when meeting up in person!

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1577296 - 15 Jun, 2023 - 04:41PM

Dress size is not a mystery for us chaps ....we do know such things as "slim" at 5ft 2" should be about an 8 and "average" at 5ft2 " should be about a 10..
Recently spoke to someone who described herself as slim at 5Ft 3" and size 12...must have a lot of rather porky mates to compare herself with .
Interestingly not many ladies have much to say on this matter ..speaks volumes in itself.Most run a mile if you ask their dress size.

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Quirky-Birdy - 15 Jun, 2023 - 01:25PM

beckysharp, I didn't state plus size to begin with just the rest of my description but I kept having guys look at my pics at tell me they were expecting me smaller, even with trying to be as honest as i could so now state plus size on my description so I can't be accused of trying to dupe people 🤣
I mean large breast, big bum and very curvy apparently meant size 12 tops in the head of most 🤣

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Beckysharp - 15 Jun, 2023 - 01:07PM

Love your profile Quirky-Birdy! I have similar attitude to you (I’ve also looked for similar location/age guys to you- will wish you good luck!!!)

One thing I would say is even as a woman I have no idea how ‘plus size’ is defined. So it’s probably no more helpful than curvaceous etc. best to go by photos and early meet ☺️

Quirky-Birdy - 15 Jun, 2023 - 12:50PM

It's not always the person doing the describing that's wrong. When someone says they like curves, everyone has a different ide of what curves are in their own head.
I am classed as a plus size lady, but I swim 3 or 4 times a week doing 2000m a time. I hula hoop. I have 2 large dogs and 3 kids thag I walk and run around the parks. I describe myself as small end of plus size curvy but healthy and in shape.
Everyone that reads that will take away a different image.

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David Copperfield - 12 Jun, 2023 - 11:26PM

It helps if you keep things simple in my opinion. For example, I've a head with teeth but not so much hair left. Still got a torso with two legs and an arm attached in each top corner.

For reason's beyond my comprehension this description appeals to more women than claiming to have a six-pack and a toned bottom (which, of course, I do have but I prefer to hide the truth for fear of appearing vain ).

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Somniata - 12 Jun, 2023 - 10:48PM

Hmm, not sure how one's size can be subjective! If you are, say 5ft 3, that's short! No amount of subjective is going to magic that into tall!
Perhaps with shape you can be imaginative but still you should be honest - like describing oneself as cuddly or fluffy, yeah it's cute but it's also clear that we are not talking about a super-skinny person.
However it amazes me how some people will blatantly lie about what they look like, knowing full well they are going to have to meet up physically with the other person!!

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1596777 - 12 Jun, 2023 - 07:33AM

I prefer a description to a photo. The use of language tells me alot about someone, and if I enjoy a lady's conversation, it's unusual I don't find something appealing about her in person.
Monosyllabic, strained conversations take the shine off the most photogenic person for me.
Well, that's my excuse anyway! I'm a Ray Winstone type, so my photo doesn't haul in the ladies. 😀

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Sandypops - 12 Jun, 2023 - 01:27AM

I don't see any point hiding the truth. If we're going to meet, that's just a stupid thing to do. I'm confident in myself but I'm not slim, nor average and I've not got a gym bod so I'd rather men are aware of that before we even start chatting. We're all on here to find what WE are looking for. There's no point settling, most of us do that at home already. So my profile describes ME, if you message then you're going to be messaging the person described in my profile, not a completely different person, either in appearance or personality. What would be the point in that? I have a busy life, as probably do most people on here, so let's not waste each others time.
For me, personality is an absolute must! Of course I find some people more attractive than others, but without a personality that makes me thirsty for more, looks are irrelevant.

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Maxdeep - 11 Jun, 2023 - 11:18PM

Tinky winkly..is a good comparator for most of us...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..one persons large is anothers medium

Cheesypuff - 29 Jan, 2023 - 02:28PM

Paula99 - 29 Jan, 2023 - 12:38PM

What can I say, I'm a dirty dog 🐕

Just your type Mrs P 🤪

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ExoticOrchid - 29 Jan, 2023 - 02:16PM

P99 - 12:38PM

You're not wrong there! 😳

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Paula99 - 29 Jan, 2023 - 12:38PM


I am open minded about most things but what goes through your mind is worrying 😊

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J1on1d - 28 Jan, 2023 - 08:19PM

Paula99 - 28 Jan, 2023 - 07:26AM

Bob didn’t have a sword to fight with but I bet “Bob” enjoyed sheathing a weapon 🤣🤣🤣

Cheesypuff - 28 Jan, 2023 - 07:37PM

Paula99 - 28 Jan, 2023 - 08:52AM

If beastiality floats your boat Mrs P then you crack on!

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Paula99 - 28 Jan, 2023 - 08:52AM

Cheesy …

And ‘spit ‘ the dog 🐕?

Cheesypuff - 28 Jan, 2023 - 08:31AM

Paula99 - 28 Jan, 2023 - 07:26AM

Carolgees actually, I bet that tash was tickly

Paula99 - 28 Jan, 2023 - 07:26AM

Bob …as in Hope ..Monkhouse..or the man servant from Blackadder….😂😂😂

Cheesypuff - 27 Jan, 2023 - 07:24PM

J1on1d - 27 Jan, 2023 - 04:04PM

I bet old Bob loved a bit of sword fighting in his time.

J1on1d - 27 Jan, 2023 - 04:04PM


Are we back on your anal fantasies again? Looks like you are talking about a spit roast. I admire your honesty 🤣

Cheesypuff - 25 Jan, 2023 - 10:21PM

davetherave666 - 25 Jan, 2023 - 06:52PM

I like to think I'm somewhere between Tom Hardy, Tom Cruise and Bob Monkhouse.

1579213 - 25 Jan, 2023 - 06:52PM

I find this topic quite hilarious to be honest. If you are planning to actually meet someone then you have to be honest don't you, otherwise, what is the point. I find it is helpful to compare yourself to someone in the public eye, that way, it is easy to get a picture of what someone looks like. For me, I like to compare myself to Tinky Winky from the teletubbies.

Cheesypuff - 24 Jan, 2023 - 11:24PM

TheBoredHousewife - 24 Jan, 2023

But what did he round it up from?

TheBoredHousewife - 24 Jan, 2023 - 11:11PM

Cheesypuff - 24 Jan, 2023 - 07:06PM

I had one the other day who rounded his up to a 10.
That made my day 😁

ExoticOrchid - 24 Jan, 2023 - 08:40PM

Cheesyp - 07:06PM

Modesty becomes you! 🤣

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Cheesypuff - 24 Jan, 2023 - 07:06PM

I do think there's room for a little bit of artistic licence, I mean I claim to have a 9" cock.

I only round it down as big ones scare some ladies.

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1575300 - 24 Jan, 2023 - 10:31AM

It’s pretty pointless to hide the truth, all you wil get is being rebuffed on the first meeting.

J1on1d - 19 Jan, 2023 - 12:28PM

@Bojanglss - not sure what the apology was for,. There was nothing contentious in any of the messages exchanged 😊

winedine&? - 19 Jan, 2023 - 09:58AM

At present I would say I'm Happy Buddha size. I am struggling to get rid of the lockdown layers but usually a month of cardio in the gym gets it down. Old rugby injuries slow me down at times though, but there's nothing like sexercise to bring the body confidence back. I've always been a stocky endomorph, all chest and stamina with no bum and skinny legs. Ha ha!
Then, I've always looked deeper than the physical when seeking a lover. Nothing turns me on more than a self-confident, intelligent partner, who can hold a political conversation or a love of the more sensual side of life.
A willingness to explore and read the off-beat, who dares to be different.

1577383 - 19 Jan, 2023 - 08:52AM

Sorry @ J1on1d

1577383 - 19 Jan, 2023 - 08:51AM

Thanks for the comments Cheesy. I’ll look forward to experiencing those as a newbie to infidelity !

J1on1d - 19 Jan, 2023 - 07:20AM


The context was more about when he was in his 50’s - obviously not now.


It depends, what you share in your messages, mixed in with calls through an app every now and then, swap pictures it sometimes works very well. Then When you meet it won’t be for coffee.

I started up a relationship with somebody a few years back in the US through an online game where you could message. We did all the things I mentioned above and when we first met after we ended up in the same place - well we didn’t need any more conversation, buttons went flying (😂) and we couldn’t get enough of each other. We stayed in a hotel room for 3 days. We met up twice a year with lots of messaging and FT between . It ended crazily - a disagreement about American politics and Donald Trump of all things! however we still chaat, just not about politics 😵‍💫

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1577383 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 11:49PM

You’ve got to like the tease and excitement of texting a stranger and getting a reply though, right ?
I guess it wears off quickly with multiple conversations but then I’m relatively new to this game (it is a game like most things in life)
I agree with some of the comments below on what men should take pictures of.
What do women really want to see pictures of ??

1533992 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 11:45PM

Becky sharp.

It doesnt take much to get an englishman into high heels and a corset....eddie izzard or ......tim curry in the rocky horror picture show.

Fancy doing the Timewarp ?

Distractfromthenorm - 18 Jan, 2023 - 11:41PM

Size shape.
Stop listening to what you have been shown to be attractive.
Dont be a sheep.
Be atrracted to what you really like,

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This is the way - 18 Jan, 2023 - 11:26PM


Apologies, you didn’t mention hotel. My bad!

Agree a coffee/drink meet up asap is preferable to endless texting.

This is the way - 18 Jan, 2023 - 11:15PM

EO - 10.44pm

I totally concur but I wonder how many here (or elsewhere) would be confident enough to organise a hotel meet so quickly. Sounds like a few have been burned.

It really is blind faith on both parts. I mean, that’s part of the excitement but there is definitely a risk involved. Beyond the actual act of being unfaithful to your husband/wife!

Cheesypuff - 18 Jan, 2023 - 11:13PM

J1on1d - 18 Jan, 2023 - 10:49PM

I think we've all got more meat on us than Kirk Douglas does these days ⚰️

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J1on1d - 18 Jan, 2023 - 10:49PM


I believe some men may also wear high heels and corsets (not sure about the lingerie - but who knows 😊)

I am not one of them, I alternate between average to cuddly on a weekly basis depending on chocolate and cheese consumption! So I probably have the dad bod that has been mentioned further down but then at 58 what would you expect, I am not Kirk Douglas you know - sorry to disappoint. You may be able to tell me how I should describe myself from my profile picture.

ExoticOrchid - 18 Jan, 2023 - 10:44PM

Bs - 08:46PM

Hence my motto: meet in person ASAP for a coffee or drink!

Nothing worse than long, online chats and getting on like a house on fire, etc, etc, etc and finally The Meet ... 😩

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Cheesypuff - 18 Jan, 2023 - 09:30PM

TJ8082 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 08:41PM

A smart and funny woman sounds like a threat to my ego, I'll take compliant and grateful 👍

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wijjika1 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 08:59PM

I am fairly average sized to be honest

To be honest in a fair world … you have to be realistic most of us aren’t youngsters

if you want a 6 pack on him … the. He will be expecting the same

then you’d better show up in a size 6 equestrienne outfit and the hat no excuses for the first encounter :)

Beckysharp - 18 Jan, 2023 - 08:46PM

Horrific EO you poor thing.

TJ8082 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 08:41PM

I’ve been catfished a couple of times 😂 (not on IE).
Really ruins your day!

It’s not really needed on this site though

If a woman lists everything as average and is smart/funny it’s alll good

ExoticOrchid - 18 Jan, 2023 - 08:34PM

Bs - 08:24PM

It has happened! 😖

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Beckysharp - 18 Jan, 2023 - 08:24PM

Agree @EO. For women we can alter our appearance with corsets, lingerie, heels, makeup…men not so much I guess!!

I also think photos can be taken at good angles, lighting etc.

One of the reasons it’s better to meet rather than share loads of photos imho. Wouldn’t it be awful to be a disappointment in the flesh 😱

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ExoticOrchid - 18 Jan, 2023 - 08:00PM

At the end of the day, only meeting in person will tell the real story ... even then, that's still no guarantee ... the ultimate test is the hotel meet ..
I remember one thread where the man discovered his IE had been wearing a very well padded bra all along!

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Uelendo - 18 Jan, 2023 - 07:12PM

All v subjective. Why hide the truth? I have used this site for a number of years ( not notching up on the bed post) and I have learnt a few things - treat people respectfully and with dignity, be open and transparent, agree the boundaries. Good conversation and sex always follows!

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Clangerb1505 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 06:13PM

I have fallen into the same trap.. I felt that slim meant not overweight.. but that isn’t the case.. so average must be ok? Nope most people apparently are overweight.. curvaceous don’t even go there.. could be anything.. to a size 22. I have no idea what ample and upwards could even be! I shouldn’t be so judgemental I have been told by one very lovely lady, but I was not suitable because I wasn’t tall enough.. if I wasn’t confused when I started out here I am now!

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jamieDodger67 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 04:56PM

I just say I am a god to look at .. then qualify with Budha. At the least you will get a smiley face.

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Beckysharp - 18 Jan, 2023 - 02:41PM

I agree ‘average’ is probably influenced by your own experience. To me average means roughly a normal bmi for a man, but without muscle definition that would make him ‘athletic’. But I accept different people have their own definitions, and a full body (fully clothed!) photo speaks for itself so ot doesn’t matter too much 😊

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tarnished knight - 18 Jan, 2023 - 01:34PM

I put average, because I'm neither fat nor thin. I have lifted weights most of my adult life, but I'm no muscle bound hercules. I'm sure other people word describe me differently. There is consensus that I have a nice bum though...

1546412 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 01:25PM

I opt for “average”, but what’s an average 53 yr old man supposed to look like? I’m 6’2” and about 220lbs/100kg; so at one point I was using “ample”. But then you wonder what THAT means-does it mean fat? Or is “ample” maybe making a claim I might not be able to back up? It’s a bit of a minefield, so “average” might be safest. There should be an option for “Dadbod” for the Menfolk- what do you think, guys?

1536788 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 01:13PM

I tend not to let the whole body thing tie me up in knots because I don’t really have a type - I have previously dated size 8’s and size 18’s. Obviously I would have a limit somewhere - I’m just yet to find it !

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Beckysharp - 18 Jan, 2023 - 12:34PM

I am slim curvy and athletic (3 different categories!). I chose slim as I thought curvy or athletic could give a mental image to someone that I’m not (no 6 pack sadly!). Whereas slim is slim 🤷‍♀️

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This is the way - 18 Jan, 2023 - 11:52AM

It is all so subjective isn’t it.

I wouldn’t say I was fat, but I have a bit of an…ahem… ‘middle-aged spread’. However, I’m quite lucky my height disguises this a bit, although I might be pushing it a bit atm.

It is difficult for the site to come up with pigeon holes for us, but I found it tricky to choose between average and cuddly. I mean what is average?! And as one poster already commented, average surely change over time!

I guess it’s just important to be as honest as possible, if you intend to ever meet someone. No good can come of concealing the truth (in this case!) otherwise…

Dotty Green - 18 Jan, 2023 - 10:49AM

Cute_as_Ducks - 18 Jan, 2023 - 09:38AM
Wise words...

I say I am curvaceous - not skinny nor fat - I am a size 10 but have big boobs and I am not thin thin - in my 50s so at that time of life where it is not so easy to lose the pounds - keep fit by running (badly) and exercising. Some say I look younger - I can't comment on that - I don't lie about my appearance as what is the point. When I had a photo on here it was just a very recent photo of my face.

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1570139 - 18 Jan, 2023 - 09:38AM

We all percieve ourselves differently...Some will look and think you are amazing,to others you might not be.Finding a right balance between personality and looks is not easy.
You might be the most gorgeous person on outside but if you have ugly soul🤷‍♀️

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1483842 - 01 Nov, 2022 - 12:16AM

Come and find out

Black Gent - 28 Sep, 2022 - 05:48PM

I do not think that I am unusual in that I can get a good idea of how someone looks from their dress size. Men are getting clued up!!

TheBoredHousewife - 08 Sep, 2022 - 05:24PM

Yes you have to be. And my pw is updated regularly too.
I find it quite disingenuous when someone’s profile says a certain age, and the photo depicts them much younger. Non starter for me. I don’t care how charming they are.

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Dotty Green - 07 Sep, 2022 - 11:32AM

Sorry my response below was to you Aiden47 - 06 Sep, 2022 (for some reason I posted Bob)

Thanks BH and EE123.

Think I have said before when the ratings out 10 were being banded around - to one person I could be a 1/10 but to another I could be a 9 or 10/10 who knows we all find different people attractive and thank god we do eh !

I think I am honest as to how I look and show photos that show me as me - no filters and keep them recent - I mean this person is going to end up meeting you so what is the point of lying before then.

So far (apart from one who was MUCH older than he said - we had no connection anyway) I have not met anyone who has lied about how they look.

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TheBoredHousewife - 06 Sep, 2022 - 06:34PM

A person who regularly does as much running as you do is unlikely to be very out of proportion.

You’re the one with the IE btw 😉

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EmnEm123 - 06 Sep, 2022 - 06:15PM

Dotty Green

The person who said you are old and overweight didn't really perceive that, he's just a snide, little, man, bemoaning the fact that no-one is interested in him.

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Dotty Green - 06 Sep, 2022 - 03:25PM

Bobb20 - 06 Sep, 2022 - 02:36PM

Thanks for the response.

I am glad you said that - I have boobs I am not skinny - My hips and bum are very small with nice well proportioned legs, yet someone here looked at my profile and concluded that I was old and overweight. It is strange how some perceptions can be.

I always think that average is a safe bet :)

1541744 - 06 Sep, 2022 - 03:07PM

Dotty Green - 22 Aug, 2022 - 08:21PM
Sorry Dotty. I totally missed you question.
Curvaceous implies curves.
This could mean that you have a figure like Jessica Rabbit or Marilyn Monroe or that your ratio of Hips to Waist is a little less extreme.
I don't know what all the options are for a Womans profile but I could chose between Ample, Athletic, Average, Cuddly, Curvaceous, Slim and very cuddly. There just doesn't seem to be an option for "Fat belly that overhangs my jeans and an arse that sags down and merges with my thighs" so I would have to choose between cuddly, very cuddly, curvaceous or even just average (based on the middle aged men that I see around and about)
Personally I think it means that you have curves and how you wear them is a whole different conversation.

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Chezley - 24 Aug, 2022 - 10:47AM


Just shows you can't tell whats coming round the corner. Despite the circumstances it's somewhat tragic.

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mipaulac - 23 Aug, 2022 - 11:50PM

I suppose it could by malicious trolls who would drive you to drink and drugs.
Suddenly was six months, compounded by never having smoked and being able to run marathons at near olympic times !!!

Chezley - 23 Aug, 2022 - 06:12PM


That last sentence, could be rephrased in future use. !!!!

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mipaulac - 23 Aug, 2022 - 12:52AM

It was, but worse.
She had been in a lesbian relationship for years prior to me that she ended. Her ex gf then died suddenly from cancer after meeting me.

Chezley - 22 Aug, 2022 - 09:43PM


I don't drink. Check the profile.

EmnEm123 - 22 Aug, 2022 - 09:27PM


State pension


Allotment, where nothing grows!

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Chezley - 22 Aug, 2022 - 09:15PM


Back to do it all again.

It's all you can do and have to do.

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EmnEm123 - 22 Aug, 2022 - 08:51PM

Chezley and his new best friend mipaulac

Your comments, pretend life aren't fantasy, they're completely delusional and increasingly disturbing.

According to you 'old birds are only good for a bonk and a plate of scran'

Young women are somehow 'cunning' enough to do what to you, I don't know.

Hong Kong sex workers are desperate to have your babies.

As apparently we British women have wasted our time on education and careers, I presume we should have just been attending to the grotty little men folk, like you?

Both of you, the only way you can get a woman, young or old, is to pay for it.

Says a lot about both of you!

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Dotty Green - 22 Aug, 2022 - 08:21PM

Aiden47 - 22 Aug, 2022 - 03:09PM

What do you imagine curvaceous means ….

Paula99 - 22 Aug, 2022 - 04:04PM


Being a nurse it's difficult for me in some ways.....

To answer your question ...yes I would say this to someone I know....its my job to let the patients make informed choices..


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1541744 - 22 Aug, 2022 - 03:09PM

I love the use of words to describe things.
The word athletic means that you have the body of an athlete. The image that instantly springs into my mind when a woman is described as athletic is pretty much your Olympic sprinter or track competitor.
The problem is that Sumo wrestlers are athletes. I read a brilliant article about build and muscle structure a few years ago that showed that in professional female athletes there is a huge variation in body size, shape, composition and the like. In the men it is likewise
So if you take up running or throwing stuff or such then you have the body of an athlete.
And so thinking of that really unspecific description I may go and change the wording in my profile. ( I have an athletic figure too now )


I just googled "womens body shape range in athletics" and there is a hell of a range of images.

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Chezley - 22 Aug, 2022 - 01:47PM


If the imagination is sometimes then is this that time or not?

There was a woman at 35 who was capable of a child and made that point. But who is now 45, and wouldn't.

What has been evident in this discussion is the mix of science and cunning pointed at men. But it is unlikely you would present this to a woman you know. You would simply agree with her delusions, even if she wanted triplets at 75.

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Secret Dom - 22 Aug, 2022 - 09:30AM

Well this thread took an unexpected turn!

Paula99 - 22 Aug, 2022 - 05:27AM

MI Paul...

Poor you..and very sad for your ex wife..


Chezleys statements are sometimes from his wild and outrageous imagination 😊

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mipaulac - 21 Aug, 2022 - 10:09PM

all I've ever said it's not impossible so Chelzy's "girlfriend" statement wasn't false. Sadly I've been through all this with my ex-wife and she became ex because she couldn't handle my mid 30's sister and sister inlaw having children.

ExoticOrchid - 20 Aug, 2022 - 11:26PM

FC - 10:24PM

Exactly what I was thinking!

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FluffyClouds - 20 Aug, 2022 - 10:24PM

Mipaulac -

Yes, that's what we've been saying the whole time. You were the one who disagreed with us, then started on about IVF. And as I said, egg donor would be needed because your peri menopause/menopuase

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mipaulac - 20 Aug, 2022 - 07:33PM

evidently yes he's such a catch :-)
FC I found this "For healthy couples in their 20s and early 30s, there's a 25 to 30 percent chance of getting pregnant in any single menstrual cycle (or around 1 in 4 women get pregnant per cycle).

By age 35, there’s about a 15 percent chance of getting pregnant naturally per menstrual cycle, and by age 40, it drops to around 5 percent or less per cycle (around 1 in 10 women per cycle). At 45, there’s only a slim chance of conceiving naturally, without fertility treatments or help."

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FluffyClouds - 20 Aug, 2022 - 07:03PM

Mipaulac -

Having looked this up. Egg donor would be needed age 45/6 and over. Successful pregnancy and birth for this is 0.19%

Paula99 - 19 Aug, 2022 - 10:56AM


The original point was about Chezleys 'Visit' to his gf and even he said it wasn't realistic to have a baby at 46...also would a working girl want to go down the IVF road?..

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mipaulac - 18 Aug, 2022 - 10:53PM


It is if someone wants to have your child reference the initial comment which said 46 was too old :-)

Paula99 - 18 Aug, 2022 - 09:21PM

MI Paul...

This isn't about IVF...😳

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FluffyClouds - 18 Aug, 2022 - 09:16PM

Mipaulac -

With fertility treatment. We're talking about ie. No one's doing fertility treatment.

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mipaulac - 18 Aug, 2022 - 08:50PM

if a women wants to conceive in her forties early fifties she can with the help of fertility treatment ok there are risks but plenty do so.

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 08:12PM


We all know the science. But if a woman still believes she can conceive that overrides it all. Even if she and everyone else knows its a delusion.

Her intention was genuine. But now not realistic.

Paula99 - 16 Aug, 2022 - 06:50PM


The topic of your extra curricula activities is very popular here....you have created a wide thought process.....I do think there is one misconception..excuse the pun.😁.

At 46 it is extremely difficult to concieve and after the age of 35 there are a higher risk of pregnancy-related problems and chromosomal disorders such as Downs plus miscarriage and c section risk..
In my family we have a genetic issue where all of our women folk go into early menopause at 41.....as far as I am concerned it might aswell be the immaculate conception🤣

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FluffyClouds - 16 Aug, 2022 - 06:08PM

Chezley -

Hold onto your juice, I don't. But look for the best and most accurate translations. Sorry to disappoint.

FluffyClouds - 16 Aug, 2022 - 06:04PM

Mipaulac -

Ermmm, for many no, for some maybe.

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mipaulac - 16 Aug, 2022 - 05:11PM


pegnant at 46 near impossible??? For some maybe for many no

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 04:45PM


Do you speak Russian and read Cyrillic?

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 04:44PM


Do you speak Russian? If you do o might have z serious juse fir you

FluffyClouds - 16 Aug, 2022 - 04:29PM

Chezley -

Ahh I see. I'll let you off then 😉

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 03:39PM


I know. Just shows you how time flies. Certainly at the start 10 years ago. But lately there hasn't been the talk thereof. So maybe she's hit the pause and concealing.

FluffyClouds - 16 Aug, 2022 - 03:31PM

Chezley -

The bit I'm confused about is when you say 'she'd be happy to have your baby'. You also said she's 20 years younger than you. So she's 46. You do know how difficult and near on impossible it is to have a baby at that age don't you?!

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ExoticOrchid - 16 Aug, 2022 - 03:09PM

I'm from Nottingham as per my profile, obviously!!! 🙄

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Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 02:12PM

Geez what a smoke show.

When I use a translator for basic talk, they understand Mandarin.

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 10:49AM


So where are you from?

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 10:41AM


The ignorant aren't going to know the subtleties are they.

So it's an amalgam of many dialects. Which I realised long ago. And probably infinitely changeable.

But there doesn't seem to be any worth in highlighting a condition that can have no resolution

ExoticOrchid - 16 Aug, 2022 - 10:28AM

There are many, many dialects in the Chinese language ... just because a person is Chinese doesn't automatically mean they speak Mandarin ... especially if they are native Hong Kongers ... that's BH's point but obviously too subtle for ignorants!

Mandarin was decreed as the "official" language to standardise it when all parts of China became one under the Communist government.

I'm not from HK or China btw but do know history!

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 09:55AM


I'll check her out thanks for the tip.

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 09:53AM


I don't know exactly the language, it may well be a street slang. I assume Mandarin. But if you think you know let's hear it from you.

Chezley - 16 Aug, 2022 - 09:51AM

The observation is basically accurate, as it did originate from that premise. But advanced from there quite quickly. So I am confident to say we are under a shared umbrella, but the relationship is true. Be scornful and spiteful as you please.

TheBoredHousewife - 16 Aug, 2022 - 12:08AM

And I might be maligning the lady, but no self respecting woman from Hong Kong would be chattering away in Mandarin to her fellow Hong Konger housemates.

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ExoticOrchid - 15 Aug, 2022 - 09:53PM

P99 - 09:02PM

Absolutely correct.
However, when he spells it all out on a public Forum to boast about something this private, we all can't help but have an opinion about it. 😉

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Paula99 - 15 Aug, 2022 - 09:02PM


If you are 'visiting' houses of let's say 'I'll repute'..that's your business and yours only ..if you get your Entitled Kicks😉 that way who am I or any of us to judge..its no sin and people have done far worse things along the sexual depravity highway..we are not all the same...
Maybe you should try Mistress Jenna....🤣🤣🤣

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EmnEm123 - 15 Aug, 2022 - 08:13PM


I don't think it's called a 'guest', John, trick, creepy weirdos.

I really don't think Entitled Karen will be happy when she discovers this, your 'scran' will be in the bin!

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Chezley - 15 Aug, 2022 - 06:47PM


The act of going to see someone as a Guest.....

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Paula99 - 15 Aug, 2022 - 05:05PM

MI Paul...

EX OD......

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mipaulac - 15 Aug, 2022 - 04:46PM

Oh dear ehh !!!
"I visit once week"
That's not an IE ... one does not *visit* an IE ... one though would *visit* a certain service provider!
Your so astute :-)

Chezley - 13 Aug, 2022 - 05:58PM


Not on your own eh?
There's too much to eat.

ExoticOrchid - 13 Aug, 2022 - 05:32PM

Oh is that what they call it?
I think I'll go to my local Chinese restaurant if I fancy a hot pot, thank you. 🍜

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Chezley - 13 Aug, 2022 - 05:29PM


You're welcome to visit and they will do you a good hot pot.

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ExoticOrchid - 13 Aug, 2022 - 05:23PM

Just making an observation!!! 😇

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Chezley - 13 Aug, 2022 - 05:13PM


You're on the attack again.

ExoticOrchid - 13 Aug, 2022 - 05:00PM

"I visit once week"
That's not an IE ... one does not *visit* an IE ... one though would *visit* a certain service provider!

"I don't speak Mandarin"
Just as well ... I'd have to think what they are saying! 🤣

"They have similar boyfriend arrangements"
I bet they do though I also bet they use a different term in Mandarin!

"She has housemates. The air is replete with femininity"
I can well imagine though I very much doubt there is any peaceful atmosphere in a house full of women, especially when they are all speaking in Mandarin ... will be absolute mayhem!

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mipaulac - 13 Aug, 2022 - 03:40PM


Ha ha maybe it's just this site, because rugby is played with odd shaped balls?

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Girl4treat - 13 Aug, 2022 - 01:25PM

EE, I am beginning to think 90 of men if not all played rugby 10/20 years ago going by the men's profiles. It is a miracle the UK managed to have national football teams (Wales, Scotland etc), and the clubs play league football seasons and other games like tennis.
And another thing rugby before knees give up is no excuse for... But we all come in all sizes, shapes and expectations. Much better to be upfront re the obvious or not...pot of luck outcome. 😁

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Chezley - 12 Aug, 2022 - 08:33PM


You say you read my profile
Theres no record of your visit.
So you must have used another profile.

Explain if you can.

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Chezley - 12 Aug, 2022 - 07:01PM


They are known as Chinas 'overlooked' women. Although i dont speak Mandarin i get a sense of their beat and organisation of a day. I visit once a week.

Im reading a lot of evolutionary psychology. So ive thrown in some harsh polemics in the forum to steer towards such.

By the way, you have invariably shown a considerate response, so thanks.

Paula99 - 12 Aug, 2022 - 06:34PM


Bloody hell....even you can't make that ...maybe you should pen a book... Entitled Kicks....not sure what stuff you read but do you sleep at night?

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Chezley - 12 Aug, 2022 - 06:06PM


My long running ie is from Hong Kong. (10 years). She is 20 years younger. She feeds me a good bowl of real Chinese food. She cooks what i grow. She wears holdups and thick tights in winter. She would gladly have a child with me. She enjoys making and seeing me shoot my load. She lets me see other women. She has never missed a beat in all these years.

She has housemates. The air is replete with femininity. Treat them with respect and they are a delight. They have similar boyfriend arrangements. Big days involve hot pots and feasting. They are a joy to spend time with.

Such things come to men late in life.

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FluffyClouds - 12 Aug, 2022 - 06:05PM

EE -

I've been told that too by quite a few men, they've said they didn't ask for them either, apparently practically forced onto them without any warning ⚠️

EmnEm123 - 12 Aug, 2022 - 05:42PM

I really wish I hadn't used that tongue emoji, that was a slip of the tongue, so to speak.

All in the best possible taste, Cupid Stunt style.

EmnEm123 - 12 Aug, 2022 - 05:17PM


I see your point, I posted just a few weeks ago about a man claiming to be athletic, as far as I am concerned he was obese, more than likely grossly.

Apparently he played rugby twenty years ago, I should state that he had a more or less a full length nude.

It states on my profile that I wouldn't share those types of photographs and I wouldn't expect anyone else to either.

I also state, why lie, you can't be that desperate for a leg over.

I doubt many are so desperate that if turning up to a meet and the other person was an absolute liar, they would hang around, but people are strange.

I have heard from a couple of guys on here that some women post pictures of their vaginas, how one would prove tightness, I don't know.😜

Perhaps those who do could enlighten us?

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EmnEm123 - 12 Aug, 2022 - 05:01PM


I'm really disappointed in you.

I told you to spew out your shame, insult, guilt diatribe on the 'how to stay desirable' thread.

Yet, here you are, doing it here, laughable really.

Perhaps it's time to think up something original.

Ask Entitled Karen if she can come up with anything.

Although perhaps she is busy, as she knows 'how to treat a man, support him, build him up', she is probably in the kitchen wearing stockings and suspenders, cooking you a cordon bleu meal.

That's after your hard day of drawing your state pension, having a couple of pints in an old mans boozer and visiting your allotment, where nothing grows.

Perhaps the potatoes are feeling shame, insult and guilt?

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TheBoredHousewife - 12 Aug, 2022 - 04:57PM


The difference with IE is that it is about the affair, the sex. That is the endgame for the majority of people here. So I do understand why people would want, or offer nudes. If a man makes outlandish claims about his physique, I find myself asking him to substantiate it. If he subsequently beats around the bush with his reply, then to me, that is rather suspect. I don’t claim elite athleticism, an off the chart boob size or a vagina tighter than an oyster trying to protect its pearl, hence in my opinion, really no need for photographic proof. Some men have taken umbrage to that. Too bad 🤷🏻‍♀️

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EmnEm123 - 12 Aug, 2022 - 04:37PM

Bored Housewife

If I were body beautiful, I still wouldn't know how to take decent nude shots but I don't know why anyone would want to?

I understand the need for honesty re body type, recent face pics etc.

If you were meeting someone the old fashioned way on a night out, you wouldn't say 'strip down', before I give you my number.


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Dotty Green - 12 Aug, 2022 - 02:07PM

BH exactly - one guy told me the lady he was meeting had used photos of her sister - but then turned up to meet him! He was actually a gentleman and stayed for one drink with her and said sorry not for him...

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FluffyClouds - 12 Aug, 2022 - 02:05PM

BH -

I agree about the not doing nudes or lingerie pics. Who knows where the images could end up? Most pics of models in magazines and Instagram etc are touched up and airbrushed anyway. Just gives a false representation of the female body.

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TheBoredHousewife - 12 Aug, 2022 - 01:50PM


I think we all have something about our bodies that we feel insecure about. I still don’t feel great about certain aspects of myself, but it would be wrong to doctor photos. If one is to embark on an affair, then the IE needs to know the good, bad and ugly about your physical attributes. They are going to see you naked. There is no point faking anything just to have a 10min coffee and guaranteed no followup because you lied. That said, I don’t do nudes, so they’ll just have to imagine what is behind my fully clothed photos! 😋

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Dotty Green - 12 Aug, 2022 - 09:18AM

It is quite funny when you read a lot of the titles of these threads, it is about looks and body type - is this what has become most important? Do you think this is all to do with over the past few years social media influencing us as to what the perfect man/woman should be - and are we basing our expectations on that rather than making our own choices.

I don't think anyone should hide behind fake or altered photos, just be you - someone out there will find you attractive for who you are !! I am not feeling my best at the moment body shape wise (currently losing a few lb after being injured now back to running) - but I put up my recent photos and I met someone in person and yes they found me attractive. If you want to meet your IE and embark on a wonderful affair then just be up front from the beginning.

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Chezley - 11 Aug, 2022 - 11:25PM

I was expecting a soonish set of replies.

Maybe they got a room!

Chezley - 11 Aug, 2022 - 10:49PM


Most of us have multiple ids,because thats how we live now.

You have your home married one.
Your lying cheat here.
Your public one.
Your workplace one.

Peole dont see you, they see the image, the effect. They look for a finished product.

Chezley - 11 Aug, 2022 - 10:38PM


Same old need to be right.

mipaulac - 11 Aug, 2022 - 10:34PM

Why be so pedantic no offence was intended.
I've never been told it's a problem calling women girls before rather they consider it an endeared term.
He's your comment no quotation marks !!! "So whether we old girls can't reproduce, are only good for a plate of scran and a bonk, as you put it, is besides the point." You called old sperm defective so I asked is that why many older women aren't so inhibited about a man coming in their mouth during a BJ.
Would you agree inhibitions reduce with age and confidence?

EmnEm123 - 11 Aug, 2022 - 10:10PM


No I didn't use the expression 'old girls', I was quoting someone else.

And I didn't say rancid, defective sperm, I said rancid, old sperm.

What that has to do with you calling grown women 'girls', I don't know, do you?

mipaulac - 11 Aug, 2022 - 10:00PM

didn't you use the expression "old girls" and the risk of rancid defective sperm !?!?!
I woudn't one any one to feel at risk and prefer to reciprocate the pleasure during oral sex :-)

EmnEm123 - 11 Aug, 2022 - 09:38PM


I presume you think it complementary to call women 'girls', it really isn't, quite the opposite in fact.

So, I wouldn't know if all older 'girls' prefer to swallow. I'm sure you'll get a few answers though.

I wouldn't be able to as my poisonous mouth would be gagged.

However, I glean that you're not a fan of safe sex, or is it ok when it's just the woman who is affected/infected?

EmnEm123 - 11 Aug, 2022 - 09:30PM

Oh dear, poor old Chezley

I'll carry on with whatever I want to, whether you are impressed or not, hopefully not.

You carry on with your insults, shame and guilt on your at least two dodgy profiles, they make me laugh out loud, they're so old fashioned and tired and come from someone who has never had a young day in his life.

mipaulac - 11 Aug, 2022 - 09:18PM

Is this why older girls prefer to swallow :-) ??

Chezley - 11 Aug, 2022 - 05:29PM


You know what? Im actually impressed that you have created this synopsis. Its greatly toned down. So much better than simply launching into a tirade.

Theres some worth in it. Do carry on.

EmnEm123 - 11 Aug, 2022 - 04:33PM


There is increasing evidence that older mens sperm can cause birth defects and abnormal pregnancies, fact!

So whether we old girls can't reproduce, are only good for a plate of scran and a bonk, as you put it, is besides the point.

As someone else said, no young woman is looking for an old pensioners rancid old sperm to father her children.

And reading the comments from men your age on this site, neither are any of the women, old girls who can't reproduce or not.

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Chezley - 11 Aug, 2022 - 10:54AM


Youre correct. Its being infertile. The fluid is there but theres no product.

1529441 - 11 Aug, 2022 - 01:32AM

Chezley -

Firing blanks means something entirely different. So you hope to get a few swimmers to their final destination? Sure they won't get lost during their slow ascent? Nod off on the way.

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Chezley - 10 Aug, 2022 - 09:36AM

Johnny Greybeard

Its not true desire. Youre just practising.
The other expression is firing blanks.

The idea of improving identity recognition would see the complete evacuation of the women from the site, guaranteed.

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mipaulac - 09 Aug, 2022 - 09:47PM

Dotty Green
I'm afraid your right, basically the same theme using the same expressions "true Sexual Market value, neotony, the juice that arouses a man " pathetic,
no wonder blokes get blocked and gosted they're speaking to a male !!!!!!

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ExoticOrchid - 09 Aug, 2022 - 01:31PM

DG - 01:24PM

Absolutely ... we know what we know ... 😉

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Dotty Green - 09 Aug, 2022 - 01:24PM

Johnny Greybeard -and rarity23 - well said Gents!

EO and P99 - did you see he basically copied the comment on here and reposted as EK on the other thread ...... sigh ....

I have no idea what goes on in other's heads, I am no spring chicken, I take care of myself for me not for anyone else. The claptrap about reproducing - we are all here for the same thing to meet someone for a like minded interlude - not to have another family.

End of the day I do not need to prove my desirability to anyone on this forum - esp not to some old troll :)

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ExoticOrchid - 09 Aug, 2022 - 12:39PM

P99 - 11:50AM

Assuming he has brain ... 🤔🤭 🤣

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Paula99 - 09 Aug, 2022 - 11:50AM


What goes on inside that brain of yours I will never know...its scary...😔

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rarity23 - 09 Aug, 2022 - 11:14AM

@johnny greybeard 10.21

Well said that man, no need for disrespectful comments about women on here.

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1459664 - 09 Aug, 2022 - 10:24AM

Perhaps the profile programmers at IE can help be providing some additional slightly more specific choices. Just a thought.

1459664 - 09 Aug, 2022 - 10:21AM

@Chezley. That is such immature BS
A woman, is attractive and desired because she is attractive and desirable looking and possibly because she wants to be desired and hold a guys attention. Her age and remaining egg capacity are irrelevant. Certainly, writing as a man in mid 50s, if an attractive woman shows an interest in me and invites me to her bedroom, I will not be asking her if she can still reproduce before accepting. That question is not worth considering. Ladies, if you look desirable and wish to be desired, you will be.

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1538392 - 09 Aug, 2022 - 10:07AM

Yeah it’s a tough one…. For a lady curvy can mean many things …. Slim can also be different on peoples eyes. As a former athlete I choose athletic but then what sort of athletic?

Chezley - 09 Aug, 2022 - 09:40AM

Of course this is all clap trap. However you wish to describe your appearance.

A man is out and about seeking sex because he still has the ability to reproduce. Most of you old hens cant now. You just dont have the juice that arouses a man and makes him truly desire you.

You dont have true Sexual Market value. You require neotony, accessorising, fakery. Yes a fellow willingly allows himself to be conveyed by this process, simply to practise his reproductive capability. Which he still has, but you old girls dont.

So you talk the talk, get fixed up, you do okay for a plate of scran and a bonk.

Men will have sex with you.
They will facilitate its happening.
But men dont desire you.

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Peaches1 - 08 Aug, 2022 - 11:35PM

Average. Neither slim or obese. I wouldn't go hiding the truth as maybe one day when you've got your kit off they are going to see everything. As a woman with kids in her 40's I'm hardly going to have the body of a 20 year old.

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Classy11 - 08 Aug, 2022 - 09:08PM

I describe myself as curvy, never heard of too many curves. You either like them or you don't :-) x

1539652 - 08 Aug, 2022 - 05:42PM

I describe myself as athletic - but I'm not typical track and field shape - Big and muscly - more like the rugby player I used to be

The selection is a bit limited

1402464 - 08 Aug, 2022 - 11:17AM

I just don't understand this hiding the truth malarkey. Who wants to feel like a disappointment when they see the look on their date's face. You're just setting yourself up to fail. It baffles me. Do people really think their date won't have ANY interest in their appearance. Be truthful. Its the only way.

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Purple dreamer - 08 Aug, 2022 - 09:04AM

Think I would describe myself as not a size zero but curves in the right place with a wobbly tummy
If you plan to meet someone really no point in lying as once face to face you can't hide

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FluffyClouds - 07 Aug, 2022 - 11:57AM

Le Grand Fromage -

You remind be very much of someone else who used to come on here, and he was from London too....

Chezley - 07 Aug, 2022 - 09:40AM

Some women fit the iceberg shape. It appears proud, complete, inspiring etc.

Below lurks a vast, chilly, dark and hidden world.

Paula99 - 06 Aug, 2022 - 03:20PM

Le grand fromage....

You will be saying that women should stay at home and be chained to the sink next...

What planet are you on???😲

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1529404 - 06 Aug, 2022 - 12:12AM

Grade A BS. Descriptions should be accurate

mipaulac - 05 Aug, 2022 - 04:25PM


Yawn.......... !!!!!!!......

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EmnEm123 - 04 Aug, 2022 - 06:04PM


Why is it you're happy to bandy about your 'expertise' on those who are tall and slim, or as you determinedly put it 'obviously anorexic', but every other size of woman is 'subjective'?

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mipaulac - 04 Aug, 2022 - 03:15PM

yes I agree the terms curvaceous, average and ample are completely subjective terms.
Even BMI is now considered flawed. It's the height to hip, waist, chest ratio that matters in looks and health. If there is a personality connection the discription becomes secondary.
It works the opposite way too someone size 6 to 8 5'9-10" is obviously anorexic

EmnEm123 - 04 Aug, 2022 - 01:22PM


What's your point?

You obviously prefer larger women when you are replying to members who describe themselves as curvaceous or cuddly!

How is this subjective?

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FluffyClouds - 04 Aug, 2022 - 01:03PM

Funlover -

Did you meet the second one? Or just see the pics?

I imagine they both used an app to make themselves look slimmer on their pics. You met the first one, the deceit was out. The second one probably was cuddly, you just didn't meet her to see the deceit.

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funlover67 - 04 Aug, 2022 - 11:34AM

What is curvaceous is subjective and so is average. I’ve met with someone who said she was curvaceous but was a lot larger than what I consider someone curvy. I’ve also had a woman describe herself as cuddly but she was actually fairly slim with big boobs when I saw her pictures. The problem is people using pics that are not recent or seriously lying about their age. If you meet someone those lies will bite your arse.

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Le Grand Fromage - 03 Aug, 2022 - 07:48AM

I have asked the IE Mgt to add ‘hour glass’ and ‘pear shape’ as categories for the Ladies as these are increasingly common terms being used to describe themselves.
Hope this helps ..?

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Paula99 - 02 Aug, 2022 - 05:19PM


File it under ...not of this planet🤣

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spiralangel - 02 Aug, 2022 - 04:33PM

I have no idea what men want, especially when they say they like women who are curvy or ample and then ignore you on a meet and turn straight around and then tell you that you lied.
My pictures are me and are always shown to men before I meet them. A couple of me in underwear are shown as well so there are no surprises and nothing hidden. Unlike some men I've chatted to that have lied about their pictures being recent and a couple who weren't even them.
Honesty is the basis of any relationship for me, family, friend or partner and if I give it, I expect it to be returned.

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1536191 - 02 Aug, 2022 - 09:29AM

I now assume 'average' means 'fat'

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1487483 - 02 Aug, 2022 - 08:41AM

The categories are nonsense. I choose average because although my body fat percentage and fitness level puts me in the athletic category, I am a 14/16 with big boobs and have a mum tum. I suppose I could be curvy or ample despite the bulk being mainly muscle. Couldn't care less.

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FluffyClouds - 01 Aug, 2022 - 10:06AM

MatureWorcsBBW -

I'm with you on that one. You should have replied with 'All 3 inches? '😂

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TheBoredHousewife - 01 Aug, 2022 - 06:03AM


No prude here either, but that sort of opening message is self-limiting and goes straight into the bin.


Over the course of conversation, it’s not unusual to maybe broach the issue of sizes. Personally I really don’t mind swapping details, as the chat progresses, and especially if there is attraction. Both parties have to like that they see in bed afterall. There are of course men who lead off with touting the size of their member, as if it makes them more attractive 😏 What would make them more attractive is if they have the personality to match

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ExoticOrchid - 01 Aug, 2022 - 12:17AM

undercoverlover1970 - 10:21PM

Indeed some do ask that! 🤷🏻‍♀️

MWBBW - 10:03PM

Ouch and no, not funny, not even remotely witty either! 🙄

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1490598 - 31 Jul, 2022 - 10:21PM

Can't say I would ever ask a woman here how big a boobs are, wouldn't be relevant to her attractiveness to me. Please tell me men don't ask that?🤦🏽‍♂️

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1490598 - 31 Jul, 2022 - 10:18PM


Banter maybe but not for here and Def not for a first message or introduction.

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MatureWorcsBBW - 31 Jul, 2022 - 10:03PM


I was sent a opening message titled.

"Hilt management."

When I was confused as to what it signified, the reply was along the lines of "up to the hilt".

Now, I'm definitely no prude.
And not even that judgemental in fact.

But it made me wretch just a tiny bit.

And it means that I've no wish to meet this individual.

What do you ladies think?

Funny banter
Not funny banter?

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TheBoredHousewife - 31 Jul, 2022 - 09:40PM


If a man asks how big my breasts are, he should be prepared to reveal how big his penis at full throttle is 😎

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1490598 - 31 Jul, 2022 - 07:33PM

Do men actual say how big there penis is here? 😮

mipaulac - 31 Jul, 2022 - 07:03PM

Lorelai Gilmore
the term cuvacious is delibrately ambiguous even female dress sizes are so actual measurements hip, waist, chest. Given variying enlargment potential of a penis it's incomparable to body size.
Obviously the bigger a mans belly the longer it needs to be but I'm told girth is far more important than length the later even being painful !!!

Girl4treat - 30 Jul, 2022 - 01:49PM

Size is a funny thing. But the truth is we are what we are...if a woman, a size 10, 12, 16, 20, 8 whatever. Slim, athletic, average, big, small... same with men sizes and shapes have ranges. Unfortunately, as humans we also like what we like. And as adults it is our prerogatives... yes average and fit are subjective. But we all do know when we like something, that's the fun of IE get someone we like... hopefully.🤞🏾

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Eliza Boo - 30 Jul, 2022 - 01:31PM

The language of size is misleading. A man asked me recently to define 'curvacious'. I asked him to define his dick, because essentially its the same question - "would i xxxx it?' And there has to be more to a connection than that, for me, at least.

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Eliza Boo - 30 Jul, 2022 - 01:30PM

It's not just members being misleading about body type that's an issue for attraction. Some members want a play-mate up to 20 years younger and so they knock years off their age - then you get the picture and they are clearly older. I considered 5 years older and 5 years younger as appropriate, a full decade of tolerance should be sufficient. Too many members chance their luck because they 'see themselves' as younger but it's time wasting. Just as many men don't find a 'curvacious' woman sexual, I find the idea of being with a partner significantly older than me frankly a bit creepy. We all have facets to what we find sexually attractive.

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rarity23 - 29 Jul, 2022 - 11:58PM

Emn em
Dotty green 25th July

I certainly wasn't targeting women for honesty, and I wouldn't mind putting statistics on my profile if it helped.

I'm honest about everything from the start on IE, as I can't see the point in not being honest here, the women I have met have never lied in their self description and their pictures have been themselves.

I'm open minded about who I chat with and meet, and am not looking for a ' certain type ' , it's not all about looks for me.

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1490598 - 29 Jul, 2022 - 05:49PM

Mine is in all my pics, curvaceous seems to cover everything. Body confidence is what I find sexy. As people have said you'll find out sooner or later.

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Naughty Jason - 29 Jul, 2022 - 05:48PM

On this site the 'art of illusion' is being honest but not offering the info that invariably puts women off. For me, I work out four times a week so I don't think I'm rejected because of my body shape or size but I'm often ghosted when I tell my potential date that I'm not Caucasian. So for me the 'art of illusion' is trying to persuade my date that my ethnicity is less important than my personality.

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MatureWorcsBBW - 29 Jul, 2022 - 04:07PM

Why would you hide it when you'll be found out when you meet up?

I'm honest about being huge, fat, obese, whatever label you'd like to use.

If only men here were equally as honest.

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Foryourpleasure - 29 Jul, 2022 - 10:12AM

Why would you want to hid the truth? If someone doesn't want you as you are then they are not worth bothering with!! But that's just my opinion, No one is perfect time take's it's tole on us on the outside but it will never change us inside . Stay true to yourself not to someone unknown and most likely unworthy of your attention on here. There is someone for everyone out there, don't knock yourself there are plenty of people out there to do it for you XX

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PhatChloe - 28 Jul, 2022 - 11:35PM

It’s all subjective, just like art and life

mipaulac - 28 Jul, 2022 - 10:54PM

Woh your making my head swell
I feel I may be quite a catch if the rest here are really that bad since I'm firm all over and wear a 33"

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mipaulac - 28 Jul, 2022 - 10:42PM

Shouldn't you be telling me...... since you seem to be the expert in finding the wonderfully weird and hitting the reject button ....lol .........

EmnEm123 - 28 Jul, 2022 - 10:08PM


The issue isn't people bigging themselves up, it's people littleing (I know that's not a word) themselves down!!!

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1526205 - 28 Jul, 2022 - 10:00PM

I mean, it’s subjective to both the person giving the description of themselves and anyone viewing that person. I think the best idea is to make no assumptions until you’ve seen someone. Their image of average body may not be the same as yours. Some people
Big themselves up, some the opposite

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1382700 - 28 Jul, 2022 - 09:55PM


Sorry. Said thanks on the wrong topic. Ha. Forgive me. I’m just a man. Enough said

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EmnEm123 - 28 Jul, 2022 - 09:49PM


Do all of these curvaceous men come with a free cowboy hat?

EmnEm123 - 28 Jul, 2022 - 09:42PM


You're right, anyone, any age can have saggy bits.

Even slim people can have stretch marks, cellulite etc. Honesty is the best policy though.

Your comment about operation scars hit home for me, I have one, even though I know it's really not bad it still makes me a bit self conscious.

Bra on!😜

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ExoticOrchid - 28 Jul, 2022 - 07:09PM

mipaulac - 06:34PM

So, many men should be choosing that description then! 🤔

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mipaulac - 28 Jul, 2022 - 06:34PM


I would look forward to large moobs and front bum..... yeh ha

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ExoticOrchid - 28 Jul, 2022 - 05:46PM

AAG - 04:13PM

No, no, no ... I'm not stupid, I know that! 🙄

I'm talking about men who describe THEMSELVES as curvaceous!!!

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AAGilfan - 28 Jul, 2022 - 04:13PM

Exotic Orchid
As in are attracted to women with "curvaceous" in their profile? I would suggest a man who is attracted to someone who is comfortable with how they are and happy to share their womanly features. Certainly works for me

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ExoticOrchid - 28 Jul, 2022 - 04:04PM

What are we to make of men who choose "Curvaceous"???

AAGilfan - 28 Jul, 2022 - 03:19PM

@Dotty Green 26 Jul 2022

I agree with your sentiment but maybe the more important thing is for someone to be comfortable with themselves, rather than how they look. Am sure it is a big thing for most middle aged and older ladies to present their bodies, especially for the first time with someone they don't know that well as, unless they are committed gym bunnies, they will have various lumps & bumps which they are conscious of where actually a sensible guy will see beyond those, or more likely in my case, not really notice them at all. Its more important that the lady is comfortable in who she is & happy to be there with you because you have communicated well beforehand & you both feel ready & excited to explore the delights of being together locked away somewhere

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Dotty Green - 28 Jul, 2022 - 11:04AM

I need to go and read that thread Enigma :)

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Enigma.. - 28 Jul, 2022 - 07:55AM

Thread name…. Outfit.

9th July 2020. 12.43 pm 😃😂😉😋

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Enigma.. - 28 Jul, 2022 - 07:50AM

Good morning everyone. Greetings from a rather dull, cloudy and breezy Ayrshire.

@EmnEm123… I got the impression that he left but I cannot be sure. Most members, both male and female, whatever age, should realise that people in their 50’s do not have perfect bodies. There are going to be saggy bits, stretch marks, operation scars etc… Even some people in their 20’s, 30’s, 40’s etc will have these.
I didn’t send any photos to him.

I just wish people on the site were more open and honest about their size. But I had an experience where the male stated his body type was average. If you all want to find out what happened see another thread on the forum. I’ll post the name after this post.

And as for males coming back, having said that I’m not their type, asking for a second chance. You had your chance, you blew it. I don’t do second best and never will do. The answer is no. Bye, bye 👋🏻.

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ExoticOrchid - 26 Jul, 2022 - 05:31PM

There really is no need to be rude ... applies to both sexes ... a polite thanks but no thanks is all that's needed.

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EmnEm123 - 26 Jul, 2022 - 05:07PM


I would love to know if you asked the guy who claimed he had went to hotel rooms with the ladies with jelly bellies, stretch marks and saggy boobs if he walked out or stayed for sex?

If he couldn't tell that they weren't slim and toned when he met them he must be a bit dim, you can only disguise so much with clothing. Unless, of course the were wearing some serious control underwear.

Definitely a collector.

Was he one of the guys well over forty who describe themselves as average/dad bods but use the really athletic tighty/whitey avatar on their profiles?

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Paula99 - 26 Jul, 2022 - 04:48PM

I don't share passwords until the messages are more frequent...but I don't share them in here..
If I get asked for a picture straight away then alarm bells go off...'picture hunters'....
If they want to meet the next day after the first day chatting then that's a no go area......if they are in a 'hurry' to meet...no smoke without fire🤔

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mipaulac - 26 Jul, 2022 - 04:35PM

you should be able to asert what someone is roughly like. Unfortunately we all form fantasies in the mind rather than following, sticking to reality

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mipaulac - 26 Jul, 2022 - 04:30PM

definitely a "shopper".......... I hope you directed him to the nearest mall/redlight area

TheBoredHousewife - 26 Jul, 2022 - 02:34PM

Had one of those recently. We exchanged passwords, I wasn’t his type. Got asked to show more so he could be more attracted to me. I naturally refused, and off he went.

A month later, he popped up again, apparently after meeting a plethora of women, most of whom were on the much larger end. Could we now meet?

Um, noway. He had his chance then, decided I wasn’t for him, so why bother now? He popped up again yesterday. What a waste of time.

I have it up on my profile that I don’t share passwords early either. But if a nice gentleman has respected that request and subsequently shared a photo that I knew was not for me, like @DottyGreen, I will reciprocate out of goodwill.

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Dotty Green - 26 Jul, 2022 - 02:15PM

EE123 - I also think if someone has sent me their password and they are not for me for whatever reason, I respond explaining not for me in a nice way and I always feel obliged to let them have my password in fairness.... I only have one photo up - and tend to change my password regularly.

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EmnEm123 - 26 Jul, 2022 - 02:05PM

I like to swap passwords after a few messages, if at that point there is no attraction there's no point in wasting time.

I don't reply to a first message asking for a photo and I tend not to look at someone else's if it's unsolicited.

It's the guys who say they don't have a photo but expect to see other people's that are the problem, this isn't Blind Date!

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Dotty Green - 26 Jul, 2022 - 01:44PM

@Enigma - I agree with you, if someone said no thanks then came back and said o well actually ... I'd be the same... nope sorry

@Sophistikat - well done on that loss - and I am sorry that someone was so blooming rude!

I am happy to swap passwords early on to see if there is an initial attraction, I do tend to go for taller guys but - hey anyone over 5'2" is taller than me! For me it has a lot do with the chatting and then the meeting, I have found most men in real life are better than their photos - apart from one or two exceptions who have used older photos .. sigh. Some people may think I am overweight and others may think I am gorgeous as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think you need to take the chance and meet and if then there is no attraction just be kind to each other with no drama ... we are supposed to be adults after all.

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Sophistikat - 26 Jul, 2022 - 12:30PM

I dont think you should but sime men and women do have a preference best to get it out at the start
I got called fat the other day it broke me i was flabbergasted granted im not slim but nearly lost 3 stone....its called judging a book by its cover and i think doing thst your probably misding out on an amazing person

1531083 - 26 Jul, 2022 - 12:05PM

As a mere male I have to say some ladies demand "whats your password " as the first message .The brain and personality is what turns me on looks are irrelevant a big smile on a plainer woman who obviously likes you is a wonderful aphrodisiac

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Enigma.. - 26 Jul, 2022 - 11:26AM


Actually keeping communication going on this site, never mind meeting someone, is a bloomin miracle at times lol.

Ps apologies for the missing words and bad grammar. Not enough characters left toward’s the end… lol.

Enigma.. - 26 Jul, 2022 - 11:20AM


Bullsh*t more like 😂.

Didn’t send him any photo’s. Just blocked him ⛔️

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Enigma.. - 26 Jul, 2022 - 11:19AM


I got fed up with males sending me a first message of “What’s your photo password!?!”. No hello, good morning etc… I find the above rude, ignorant and, to a point, insulting. I don’t judge a book by it’s so why should they judge me on looks alone…. so I took my photo’s down a couple of months ago.
I don’t have a prob showing anyone what I look like. I’d rather have a conversation with a male member first to see how he messages, what his interests are etc… it’s only for a couple of day’s. Time enough to gauge whither I like someone “personality etc” wise before exchanging photos.
But come on… to say “Sorry but you’re not my type or You look like my ex wife, sister” etc… and then come crawling back a couple of day’s later saying they’ve changed their minds!?! Why lie in the first place!?!
And if exchanging pw’s within 2/4 messages works for you. Great. But I prefer to get to know a man’s personality first. If I’m not his type and so be

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Paula99 - 26 Jul, 2022 - 10:28AM


Something smells fishy....!!

1382700 - 26 Jul, 2022 - 10:18AM

Enigma; mipaulac

Interesting. Messaging for several days then swapping pics. I don’t think I’ve exchanged more than 3 or 4 messages before being asked for my PW.
And in online dating, where for me the above is true almost all the time, how does can a personality be more important than looks if it is a PW which has been requested.
I just send my PW from the off. The thought of chatting with someone for days only to find she doesn’t like the way I look is to me a waste of time. By the way that doesn’t work either ha!

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Enigma.. - 26 Jul, 2022 - 10:15AM

@ExoticOrchid and FluffyClouds

My reply is always the same… “You had your chance. You blew it. I don’t do second best, never have done and never will do. So bye bye 👋🏻. Don’t contact me again.
Then it’s “Aww come on scenario”. I’ll not bore you with the details 😉.

He was in his early 50’s. Had a certain charm. But I wouldn’t say he was good looking. Let’s put it this way… he wasn’t my usual type. But… I’m not someone who judges a book by its cover. Personality and intelligence are what turn’s me on 😉.

And I’m no super model lol 😂.

ExoticOrchid - 26 Jul, 2022 - 10:13AM

Enigma ... please find a creative way to let us know who this Greek God is so that we ladies can worship him!!!

Dotty Green - 26 Jul, 2022 - 10:02AM

Wow reading some of those stories about jelly bellies and stretch marks - I have not had children (but I do have a little belly!), these women have taken a huge step to get naked in front of a relative stranger and he is nearly sick at their bodies! Pfft I think one of the most attractive features of a person is someone who is happy with their body - it is very sexy no matter what the size. To be honest until I get truly comfortable on the first "real" meeting, I tend to opt for sexy lingerie (great being a woman at times).

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FluffyClouds - 26 Jul, 2022 - 09:51AM

Enigma -

And how old was this so called perfect man with no flaws who had experienced jelly belly and stretch marks twice in the past? I bet he wasn't so perfect himself.

Now with regards to chatting and numbers, I don't swap phone numbers until after I've seen a pic. I've honestly not had this issue. I've had ones coming back who I have rejected asking if I've changed my mind or would reconsider. The answer is always no.

ExoticOrchid - 26 Jul, 2022 - 09:22AM

Enigma - 07:00AM

"he was nearly sick"
I suppose he himself has the perfect body and looks like a Greek God??? 🙄

What a lovely man ... not!!! 🤢

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Enigma.. - 26 Jul, 2022 - 08:45AM

I’d love to hear other members opinions on this scenario?!?

You’ve message on the site for several day’s. Exchange phone numbers. It got to the point of exchanging photo’s and “he” apologies and says I’m not his type. Or he apologies and says I look like his ex wife, sister, a close friend etc… Ok. I can handle that.

BUT… a couple of day’s later he comes crawling back. Apologising. Saying he made a mistake and has changed his mind 🤔🤷🏼‍♀️.

Why get back in touch when you made it clear I looked like your ex wife!?!

Sheer desperation? Coming to the end of you’re membership? I know my thoughts on this… lol.

Ps… I can’t wait for my next trip up to Glasgow to see all these doppelgängers 😂😉😋😏.

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Paula99 - 26 Jul, 2022 - 08:05AM

Having the perfect well toned body doesn't guarantee great sex....it just means they worship their own bodies more than you...😶

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Enigma.. - 26 Jul, 2022 - 07:00AM


The reason he wanted a photo of me in my underwear was, are you ready for this ladies and gentlemen, he had been caught out twice before.
He’d been on a couple of dates with a couple of women from the site. Both dates got as far as a hotel room. Then… when the women got undressed… the both had “big jelly bellies, covered in stretch marks and saggy boob’s”. His words not mine. He told me he was nearly sick.
I suppose I’m in the minority of females on here as I don’t have children so I don’t have a jelly belly etc.. But still… none of us, males and females, are perfect. To many judgemental people on this site.

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1432599 - 26 Jul, 2022 - 06:45AM

I think the recent pic in your gallery is a good idea .. yes, they can be altered, or taken from a flattering angle but, in the end, its a better representation than the categories available on your profile and at the very least shows a willingness to be open and honest about what you look like.

mipaulac - 25 Jul, 2022 - 11:40PM

Caroline Red
ultimately personality does trump looks.
It's a sad inditement of too many sedentary, over weight, unheathy people in society that being a regular gym goer is considered a prerequist to a healthy, firm, well proportioned, physique.
There are other ways to excercise including hot unihibited fucking

ExoticOrchid - 25 Jul, 2022 - 08:47PM

P99 - 06:56PM

Exactly ... especially with all the stuff that can be done to selfies (my pics are recent and no filter used) ... meeting in person is the only way to find out.

As for men asking for dress size/bra size ... that to me is the height (no pun intended!) of shallowness ... I don't ask them what size they are or how many inches their penis is!

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darkronin - 25 Jul, 2022 - 08:37PM

I wouldn't want to hide the truth, at the end of the day we are here to hopefully meet someone in the real world so you may as well be up front from the start. ( I also think a good sense of humour helps here come on let's be honest the naked human can be funny, or as hot as hell and sometimes even both) Seriously ladies you try walking around with an erection in the nude and resist the urge to play star wars lol

1167895 - 25 Jul, 2022 - 08:00PM

I just say I’m average, it’s not exactly selling yourself but gives you a wide parameter. I’m 5ft7” so a bit short but just about on the average side 🤣.

Paula99 - 25 Jul, 2022 - 06:56PM

The camera lies...so I wouldn't accept it...

Meet your IE...

none of us are perfect..

Be kind.

If you don't like each other..walk away😊

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1534972 - 25 Jul, 2022 - 06:41PM

Simplest solution: include a full body, recent picture of yourself in your photo album.

I’ve gone to listing my dress size on my profile as I don’t know how the available descriptions are interpreted by others.

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RosePetal0007 - 25 Jul, 2022 - 06:23PM

Description should go with the latest picture u have on profile…

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Perfect moments - 25 Jul, 2022 - 03:58PM

Just be honest about your description.
We are what we are and nobody is perfect.
If people dont like the way I look it's their loss not mine. I wont cry myself to sleep over it.

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All Day Breakfast - 25 Jul, 2022 - 03:13PM

@carolinered I can’t say I’ve ever felt disappointed on touching someone’s boobs …disappointment would come in *not* touching someone’s boobs. I’d say the men in question were most likely malfunctioning.

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Caroline Red - 25 Jul, 2022 - 03:11PM

thanks @ksinger. being serious i think lots of people totally lost it physically during lockdown which put lots of people out of their routines. best advice should have been keep on exercising and playing outdoor sports instead of go for one short walk a day and dont do sport. no wonder the hospitals are full now..

ksinger - 25 Jul, 2022 - 02:48PM

Excellent, I like the way you think.

From that very descriptive list, I'd pick all of the above. And know some friends that fit the bill too.

Caroline Red - 25 Jul, 2022 - 02:38PM

like it @ksinger here's a starter for ten:

men: a) work out 3 times a week/eat well, b)bought gym membership for christmas been once / guiltily avoid kitkats at work, c) walk past gym to pick up takeaways five times a week

women: a) never had kids and actually anorexic, b) had kids and making an effort in 9am classes followed by coffee and cake, c} totally went to seed after kids with my jelly belly and saggy boobs but not my problem

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ksinger - 25 Jul, 2022 - 01:30PM

The categories are simply too narrow.
We need some more.
I suggest Dad bod and Family Pack for men.
Any other suggestions for men and women?
I doubt IE will add new ones but we could add to our descriptions to flesh out our mental pictures.

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Caroline Red - 25 Jul, 2022 - 10:55AM

Wow did this debate stir some anger and insecurity. Let's face it we all hate something about our appearance. Women call me a skinny bitch which is an insult but i take as a compliment. But men have touched my boobs and been disappointed so you can't win. Be who you are and let the men say they're athletic if they want - personally I think the dyslexics see that as arthritic so put it in on that basis. Anyway, isn't personality supposed to trump looks these days when we can be anyone we want to be any time?

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TheBoredHousewife - 25 Jul, 2022 - 09:42AM

I have seen many an ‘athletic’ man recently.
More like cuddly man.

Unless there is visible six pack, ‘average’ would probably be more appropriate.

I’ve put myself down as curvaceous because that’s what the men I’ve met have said I am (average - curvaceous).

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Redman31 - 25 Jul, 2022 - 09:41AM

I always think that honesty is the best policy and what’s the point of saying your a certain size only to be found out when either you meet or share a pic!! It’s not good to start anything off with a lie!!

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Dotty Green - 25 Jul, 2022 - 09:39AM

rarity23 - why should a lady feel the need the add her dress size ..... Should men also let us know their waist and chest sizes...?

Also what dress size would you like? as I am S in some shops, size 10 in others, M in some outfits and Size 8 in other shops .......... that still does not give any sort of picture of how I really look !! Should we also put on our bra size ?

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mipaulac - 25 Jul, 2022 - 01:58AM

why is every reply you make choleric, often with disparaging comments towards other users. "Everybody knows what body type means, they are just being liars" but a quick web search shows you don't actually know what an athletic body type is !!!!

FluffyClouds - 25 Jul, 2022 - 01:03AM

EmnEm123 -


Only exercise some 'athletic' men have seen is pie to mouth.

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EmnEm123 - 25 Jul, 2022 - 12:00AM


Why target the women for honesty.

The men on here are ridiculous, athletic, no chance, playing a bit of rugby 20 years ago doesn't make you that. It doesn't now, I class athletic as a slim person who excercises.

There is one on here from Edinburgh with a public photo describing himself as athletic who has more rolls and bigger tits than a fat woman.

Apparently he 'used to play rugby ' does that make you athletic, no.

Everybody knows what body type means, they are just being liars.

In fact, I have put on weight during the last couple of crappy years

I am changing my profile from slim to average.

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rarity23 - 24 Jul, 2022 - 11:37PM

Just be honest in your description, for a lady even add a dress size in your personalised part of your profile.
Your profile pictures will back up your written profile.
Obviously if you go on to meet someone, they will find out if you have lied !!

In my years of using IE, I have never met a lady who hasn't described herself perfectly, or who had altered her pictures on here.

I've never asked for pictures in underwear either, that's far more interesting to discover for real, in a hotel bedroom x

FluffyClouds - 24 Jul, 2022 - 02:20PM

All Day Breakfast

I don't think of slim as skinny, but there again there isn't an option for skinny on this site. I put slim then in my profile slim/average. A full length body pic should really be enough to get a decent idea. But I see a lot of just head shots and top of body shots which hide the main event.

Enigma -

If he can't work it out from a clothed full length body shot, then he ain't getting an underwear pic. Sounds like just a perv to me.

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mipaulac - 23 Jul, 2022 - 07:26PM

Intoxicate Your Mind,

Don't you think
RogerU should try "Grinder" I sure they would be inundated with responses :-) :-) ;-)

Enigma.. - 23 Jul, 2022 - 05:44PM

Well now…. Good evening.
When someone sends you a message and I quote…
“Send me a pic of you in your underwear. I don’t want to be caught out yet again”!?! Kind of says it all.
I asked why? Got the answer…
No further comment

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All Day Breakfast - 23 Jul, 2022 - 07:33AM

The tricky one is ‘curvaceous’ as can cover a broad range of body shapes… the other categories are pretty clear. But I have found women are pretty honest on here around body shape.

I find it hard to describe my own size. My IE says I’m thin … but thin to me says ‘skinny’ which I’m not. So I put average, although I guess you might find a lot of beer bellies in the average category.

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ExoticOrchid - 22 Jul, 2022 - 11:39PM

EE123 - 09:13PM

Moi? 😇

1525741 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 10:52PM

This is an interesting point and as stated it is very subjective... I think an exchange of (honest and accurate) photos is important in the first instance... if looks are important to you.

I consider IE is like one big jigsaw puzzle... without the benefit of a picture on the box... you seek that compatible piece that you can slot in next to (no pun intended 😀)... but that is just part of it... you also have to match on the surface... so the lines and patterns match... and in this "puzzle" there are no corners or edges to help you 😉

For me the important thing is the chemistry... if you click with your IE... you will know...

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EmnEm123 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 09:13PM


I'm not au fait with emojis but if I were....

A big wagging finger to you!😂😀😁

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EmnEm123 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 08:31PM

VV, IYM, Exotic

I think they're on a loser!

As are certain others!😂

ExoticOrchid - 22 Jul, 2022 - 07:22PM

IYM - 07:12PM

Or SquirtKing! 🙄

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1535133 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 07:20PM


Brownie points for being honest about what they’re after! 😂

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Hedone - 22 Jul, 2022 - 07:12PM

To be honest RogerU is much better than:


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1535133 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 07:06PM


The only men who say How cares to cock sizes, are the men who hope their women don’t care.

Well done on the choice of profile name. It will see much success 😏

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mipaulac - 22 Jul, 2022 - 06:26PM

EmnEm123 I'm going to have to disagree with you again I know women who are 40+ slim with big boobs, my sister in law is one and it pretty disconcerting having men mention her boobs to me in ways the wouldn't to my brother. I find a slim waist well proportioned with a c cup most attractive but that like so much else is only superficial once you know a person. I just can't understand some mens obession with tits

EmnEm123 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 05:13PM

A man with a ridiculous username of rogeru would say that, wouldn't he?

How cares?????????

I see what you were trying to get at, probably not many.

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1533801 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 05:01PM

I would say it's all about the buzz and excitement big cock small cock
How cares

EmnEm123 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 04:50PM

I would like to add that as I'm tall and slim, no I don't have big boobs. I have been asked the question on more than one occasion. I thought it should have been obvious.

I wonder if men think that a certain build of men have bigger dicks?

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EmnEm123 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 03:19PM

Dotty Green

I wouldn't consider a woman who describes herself as curvaceous as fat. I think women who have big boobs are the majority of the time carrying a little more weight, even with a good diet and exercise, it's natural.

As for the tongue in cheek comment from someone about slim with big boobs, that's not something I see very often, unless fake!

It's like a Barbie doll, apparently if a real women had her proportions, she would tip over!

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Kitten55 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 02:58PM

It’s not worth using edited photos etc, I would hate to meet someone and their first reaction is eurgh, once I am chatting to someone I’m really honest about life’s battle scars as I don’t want to be made to feel insecure about them during a meet and I don’t want to be self conscious in the bedroom so I am almost brutal about it. Obviously take photos from good angles and on a good day but I want them to be revognisable as me. My ie said my photos didn’t do me justice- that is the best compliment and starts things in the right direction.got my own self esteem I won’t edit photos and see others doing it as slightly pathetic if I’m honest (I usually am) fooling no one but themselves and totally misspelling wasting everyone’s time. If any photo is filter that alters features (colour fine etc) then it’s an instant turn off and a no from me. No, enlarged eyes, lips, cheekbones, and I don’t want to date a Snapchat dog

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Dotty Green - 22 Jul, 2022 - 02:53PM

I always say curvaceous... I have big boobs, I am not super skinny nor am I super fat. I have a few extra pounds at the moment but still can wear size 10 clothes. I have one recent photo on my profile. I am sure as has been said below some people are put off by curvy as they think fat. Also if I see that someone has put on their profile they want someone slim I don't bother messaging as I do not consider myself slim.

Again I have a type, tall silver foxes.. but that is a preference and a lot of the time I will take a look at other guys and have been attracted to what is not my norm.. Until you meet you'll never know. Had one guy who clearly lied about his age, and he clearly was not attracted to me so we cut the date rather short and moved on - no drama.

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1532511 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 02:24PM

It doesn't really matter as most would rather stay home and play with their toys (having done so for ages before striking up the courage to come on here).

I'd say the chances of escalating to an actual meet up with most people on here are close to zero. So in that sense there's no downside to people being dishonest about their size.

Honestly, I think most are up front about it and those who aren't probably aren't going to meet anyway.

So chances of meeting someone really out of whack with their profile are slim. Pardon the pun.

TheBoredHousewife - 22 Jul, 2022 - 01:57PM

Too funny!
Now I’m no supermodel, and mine looked reasonably like his photo, but was a lot plumper (manboobs), and doctored his nether region.

Oh help. What was I expected to do with that?! 🙈🙈

And there are others…..despair

Dayveed - 22 Jul, 2022 - 01:53PM

If you’re overweight, describe yourself as thin, then on your date, suck it up and when asked why you’re going just tell ‘em it’s the mood lighting ….

Of course, the other way is to be factual with how your appearance is. You wouldn’t use a pretend profile pic that doesn’t represent you - who does that 😂😂😂

notraps9542 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 12:54PM

Describing myself I normally go for average - slim waisted broadchested and at 50 something the odd wobbly bit lol 😀.

For the ladies if I see ample and curvy on a profile it attracts me - many things come with age and curves are to be cherished.

Finally I guess I’m getting a little too old for this site as I only seem to get “generic” profiles sent through from absolutely miles away.

So if someone could send me a message with the word “curves” in it at least I would know I’m not alone…

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1536108 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 12:52PM

Slim big boobs ahaha tanned and gorgeous if I do say so myself

notraps9542 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 12:47PM

Describing myself I normally go for average - slim waisted broadchested and at 50 something the odd wobbly bit lol 😀.

For the ladies if I see ample and curvy on a profile it attracts me - many things come with age and curves are to be cherished.

Finally I guess I’m getting a little too old for this site as I only seem to get “generic” profiles sent through from absolutely miles away.

So if someone could send me a message with the word “curves” in it at least I would know I’m not alone…

1382700 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 11:59AM


Don’t think you’re alone. Sending messages is like direct mail. About a 1% open rate.

1370347 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 11:46AM

Does anyone send out messages! And they do not get opened? I’ve sent out over 100 and only a few have actually been opened!

I can live with my profile been looked at and who ever saying he’s not for me.

But messages not even being opened. Does this suggest the over 1 million members maybe !! Suspect

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dewalt5269 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 11:07AM

Tell the truth... because you may meet someone and they will obviously find out

FluffyClouds - 22 Jul, 2022 - 10:59AM

Bored housewife -

I've had one who doctored his face. Gave himself extra hair and younger skin,it could have been a younger pic. I hardly recognised him.

FluffyClouds - 22 Jul, 2022 - 10:56AM

Maybe the question heading should read:

Body description, the art of delusion

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Paula99 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 08:49AM

Women and men are guilty of this anyway...if you meet the person and you like each other does it really matter..if you don't..walk away.

Bit difficult if your looking for a one legged curvaceous black lesbian/gay person🙈🙊

TheBoredHousewife - 22 Jul, 2022 - 08:49AM

Fortunately the majority of men that I’ve met have looked better than their photos. So I tend not to pay too much attention to passwords.

But I’ve also met my fair share of men who have clearly doctored their pictures.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. There is no greater embarrassment than booking a room, getting your kit off and having your IE walk out because you faked it.

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1432599 - 22 Jul, 2022 - 06:49AM

I think we're only heading for later disappointment if we describe ourselves as something other than the closest fit .. and by that I mean in choosing one you are discounting the alternatives.

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ExoticOrchid - 21 Jul, 2022 - 11:54PM

I have learned to take descriptions with a (generous) pinch of salt as only meeting in person will show what the person really looks like.

I agree most men and women do abuse the descriptive terms for body shape provided by IE though ... women generally regarding size and men generally regarding height.

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fumboyme - 21 Jul, 2022 - 11:45PM


mipaulac - 21 Jul, 2022 - 11:26PM


Spot on

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mipaulac - 21 Jul, 2022 - 11:19PM

i maybe cynical but there is little in your comments to suggest other wise.
Why would I want to ingratiate myself anymore ?
Hee ha sorry I'm fortunate enough not to have a spare tyre for you to deflate while fantasy shopping.

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FluffyClouds - 21 Jul, 2022 - 10:41PM

Mipaulac -

Well I certainly know what isn't athletic.

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EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 09:42PM


I am neither disillusioned or very disappointed hun! (Hun, really, is that the best you can come up with?)

Bit of a strange comment when someone is only expressing a preference for what type of man they find attractive.

I like em tall, dark and handsome and make no apologies for it.

I find that the men who usually take exception to that are none of those things, but different strokes for different folks!

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1534972 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 09:28PM

I have found, throughout the years of using IE, that curvaceous can be interpreted in a variety of ways. To me, it means usually a large chest, small waist, and large bum in other words a body shape that gives the illusion of a Coke bottle as a song from the late 1980s says.

I use slim to describe myself this time on IE but do list in my profile description that I have curves.

I find men use the body description choices far more liberal than certainly I do. What is defined as athletic for example is very subjective. Someone with arms thinner than mine isn’t an athletic appearance to me but they may have chosen that because they are an athletic individual as in they partake in sport.

Does someone’s description matter that much or prevent others from wanting to get to know someone solely based on what they’ve selected? In my opinion, if you’re verifying anyway- exchanging pictures and meeting up hopefully you can will see if it’s accurate.

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mipaulac - 21 Jul, 2022 - 09:19PM

what's "athletic" then ? It's all quite ambiguous ...which should be part of the fun......... unfortunately the mind has a tendency to project a fantasy whch unless you pull someone way above your normal expectation tends to disappoint. While inversely the other party feels duped and disappointed. This can lead to a clinginess with the former whoses reluctant to let the best chance of their lives slip away. Do you get my drift ?!?!

mipaulac - 21 Jul, 2022 - 09:04PM

you do sound really disillusioned and very disappointed hun (wait for the **#.. !?!?! ). My parameters aren't set in stone like your's appear to be is it personality or do all meets really turn up unfiltered with a bag and spare tyre?

Johnhb - 21 Jul, 2022 - 08:17PM

reading some of the comments. there is a definite ZING on here. no names , no pack drill. (my money is on Glasgow, )

Johnhb - 21 Jul, 2022 - 08:05PM

I feel It is a matter of perspective so, when I think I am a little fat, I say just that, " I am a little fat" . if a photo then garners comments suggesting, I am just normal for my age and sex, I should accept it, especially if said by the object of my affections.

Johnhb - 21 Jul, 2022 - 07:55PM

it certainly is. That being the case I think you just have to go with your own perspective. I think I am a bit fat, others say I am normal for my age and sex. Ill stick with , "I am a bit fat" it is clearly my opinion as i said it. What comments are then passed about any photo are the perspective of the viewer, the object of your affection thinks a nicer way about you. Take it. accept it.

1531083 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 06:41PM

I put ample but not sure Have a spare tyre and yes need to lose some but its all relative am about 16 stone need to lose about 3 stone !

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Paula99 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 06:37PM

Mission Impossible Paul 😂

You are loving the attention 🤣

Paula99 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 06:19PM

Body types are difficult at times..

..naturally slim but don't go to the gym?

... the ones with a few love handles?

...the old fashioned 40 chest guys

...athletic as it's obvious

How muscular is muscular..42 chest and above

Slim but takes regular exercise

What is average?

FluffyClouds - 21 Jul, 2022 - 04:44PM

Mipaulac -

Curvaceous is supposed to be attractively in proportion. Slimmer waist, with bust and hips of similar size.

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EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 04:33PM


Then you are as OCD, hollow and blinkered as you suggest I am.

I'm tall and slim and looking for comparable in a man!

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mipaulac - 21 Jul, 2022 - 04:26PM

I would love to know what chest to waist to hip ratio the term "curvaceous" refers to ????

mipaulac - 21 Jul, 2022 - 04:19PM

It makes you sound OCD. Admittedly it governs intial attraction but it's so hollow and blinkered to reduce it to a commercialised asthetic perspective. All I ask is that they have a comparable physic/looks to myself but know that doesn't mean personality compatibility.

EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 04:17PM

Rufus 269

I hope you find a 5ft tall, 280lbs, face like Alan Sugar woman with a lovely personality.

Perhaps it's not a bad thing to have no preferences and to be so easily pleased. I suppose it saves having to be on here for too long!

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1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 04:03PM

actually this sparring is good fun.

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FluffyClouds - 21 Jul, 2022 - 04:00PM

I'm with EmnEm -

I know what I like and what I find attractive. It's not shallow to state your preferences.

Yet, I've lost count of men who have chatted to me who have met women who have been bigger than they stated in their profile. Described as curvaceous, pics taken at certain angles and apparently turned up looking like sizes 16/18/20. BUT, when you look in the guy's profile he states 'he doesn't have a type'. Well clearly, he has. So just put it.

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EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 03:54PM

Rufus 269

Now it's trapeze artists?

Another man who can't cope with being challenged or contradicted.

You have resorted to spouting a big pile of nonsensical, polo pony manure.

FluffyClouds - 21 Jul, 2022 - 03:47PM

The options for women are:

Very Cuddly

The bottom four are the ones where there's some confusion and overlap from what I hear anyway.

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1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 03:47PM

Are we talking about the polo ponies or the trapeze artists?

Staff are so hard to recruit these days

Time was they would be grateful for a handfu full of warm gravel

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EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 03:43PM

Rufus 269

Can you not afford to employ someone to do that for you?

1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 03:40PM

"But not you though, you'll take anybody, no matter what?"

Yes I am particularly attracted to one legged trapeze artists with a day's stubble

1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 03:27PM

sorry I just had to nip out to feed the polo ponies.

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EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 02:39PM

Rufus 269

But not you though, you'll take anybody, no matter what?

1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 02:32PM

Shallowness is non gender specific but probably more often exhibited by the male of the species

EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 02:25PM

Rufus 269

Of course men never express any preferences on their profiles.

Or do you just think the women shallow?

1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 02:21PM

I simply quote an example of some of the comments on profiles on this site

EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 02:16PM

Rufus 269

What do cars, money, something in the city have to do with anything?

1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 02:08PM

"I have a preference for really tall, slim men. I have absolutely no interest in overweight or short/average height men. That doesn't make me shallow."

I dont know you so i cant comment but i am open minded enough to recognise that you have a valid opiion and what suits you is a matter for you.

willingness to accept people for what they are, not what they look like, what car they drive, how much money they earn or whether they are "something in the city" does not make me desparate"

1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:53PM

"vive la difference"

EmnEm123 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:44PM

Rufus 269

Here we go again on here, we've had this before.

"If people are so shallow as to not like what they see/read then they can move on"

You must be joking?

By that theory you would be happy to start an affair with absolutely anybody no matter what weight, height, looks, personality.

I have a preference for really tall, slim men. I have absolutely no interest in overweight or short/average height men. That doesn't make me shallow.

It's human nature to have preferences, it's desperation not to!

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1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:37PM

I think Kirsty has the upper hand in that relationship.

she can "beat me on the bottom with a womans weekly" (Victoria Wood - Ballad of Barry and Freda) "Lets Do it"

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ExoticOrchid - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:32PM

R269 - 01:25

Snap!!! 😁

ExoticOrchid - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:26PM

R269 - 01:18PM

There's something kind of attractive about Phil Spencer actually ... 🤔

1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:25PM

Cue the comments from the ladies about how attractive Phil Spencer is ....ha ha

actually he is rather dishy ......im letting my female side out ha ha

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1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:18PM

As a female friend of mine once said to me about her husband "There is no such thing as the perfect partner ....you have to take what there is and knock em into shape "

I suppose its like buying a house

you really want a country cottage with a thached roof and roses round the door.

then you realise its got rising damp and costs a fortune to maintain.

so you compromise and get something which doesnt melt your heart but is more practical in the long run/

Oh God im turning into Phil Spencer

Ha ha

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ExoticOrchid - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:07PM

I agree with IYM below ... I have a chest, waist and hips ... so I'd say curvy ... no point lying because they'll see you when you meet (just like I see them and know they have Iied about their height, age, body shape!).

You can dress cleverly of course and "hide" certain parts but then all will be revealed when you get down to it!

The bottom line (no pun intended!) is that NO ONE is perfect and people should be mature enough to accept it.

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1533992 - 21 Jul, 2022 - 01:05PM

The odd thing about this EMA world is that people often put strict preferences for age and type and then go "off piste".

Surely it is better to express no preference and be open minded enough to accept that we all have bits of ourselves that we dont consider attractive ....but others may do!

its best to be honest about your size/shape etc. If people are so shallow as to not like what they see/read then they can move on.

plenty more fish in the sea


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Hedone - 21 Jul, 2022 - 12:47PM

Well that all depends on what sort of mirror you’re looking at when you’re doing it. A magic mirror found at the fairgrounds or a proper mirror!!

I describe myself as curvy, but then I know some men who describe curvy as fat! It’s subjective I guess but I would say I’m curvy, in proportion with curves in the right places. You have to be honest because once you get in the bedroom you can’t really hide it.

It is a difficult one though as ultimately you are on here to sell yourself and I’m not very good at that.

Regardless of how you describe your body size and shape, if you’re confident within it then you can say what you like as long as it’s truthful

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